Dot after name

[Dan Griswold]

Greetings, all.

My style requires me to conclude the author(s) list with a period, and
not a comma, prior to the title. So, instead of this:

Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael, ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.

I need this:

Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael. ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.

Does anyone here know how to do this?

I have tried this:

\renewcommand*{\bibansep}{.}

and it makes no difference. I still get a comma following the authors.

Please, please, someone help!

Many thanks in advance,

Dan


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[Carsten Ziegert]

Post by Dan Griswold
Greetings, all.
My style requires me to conclude the author(s) list with a period, and
Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael, ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.
Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael. ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.
Does anyone here know how to do this?
\renewcommand*{\bibansep}{.}

Try bibaesep (ae = "author/editor")
hth
Carsten

Post by Dan Griswold
and it makes no difference. I still get a comma following the authors.
Please, please, someone help!
Many thanks in advance,
Dan
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[Dan Griswold]

Post by Carsten Ziegert

Post by Dan Griswold
\renewcommand*{\bibansep}{.}

Try bibaesep (ae = "author/editor")
hth
Carsten

Thank you, Carsten. That was helpful. But apparently "ae" means "after
editor". The proof of this is that now there is a period after the
editor's name (which is good), but not after the author.

In looking through the bst file, I find no occurrence of the \bibansep
macro. So, jurabib.sty defines it, but jurabib.bst (for example) does
not use it. Perhaps I could put it in there somehow, but that will
take some pondering, as I have no experience with bst files at that
deep a level. Does any one have some quick hints about that?

Someone on the list might take this opportunity to encourage me to
look into biblatex. I have been looking, and it looks really great.
But at this point just about all the bibliographic formatting needed
for my dissertation is set up in my jurabib configuration, whereas
there is a long way to go before I could get biblatex functioning that
well. I think that this issue of the period following the author name
is just about the last thing to correct. I really don't want to have
to start over.

Many thanks,

Dan

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[Dan Griswold]

Post by Dan Griswold
In looking through the bst file, I find no occurrence of the \bibansep
macro.

Okay, it turns out that this observation is far from helpful, as
\bibaesep doesn't occur in the bst file either, although changing its
definition does have an effect. Why is that?

Dan
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[Eli Crumrine]

Dan Griswold <***@rochester.rr.com> | Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:23:14
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Post by Dan Griswold
Someone on the list might take this opportunity to encourage me to
look into biblatex. I have been looking, and it looks really great.
But at this point just about all the bibliographic formatting needed
for my dissertation is set up in my jurabib configuration, whereas
there is a long way to go before I could get biblatex functioning that
well. I think that this issue of the period following the author name
is just about the last thing to correct. I really don't want to have
to start over.

In that case this probably won't help much, but I will reiterate the
suggestion for using biblatex next time. I made the switch from
jurabib->biblatex and suddenly found that, despite little-to-no
experience with the (IMO, unpleasant) tex+latex languages, I went from
blindly pasting together complicated jurabib hacks to cobbling together
macros which actually functioned intuitively and as advertised. This
seems to be at least somewhat a symptom of broader architectural issues
with bibtex, but, especially with jurabib now unmaintained, this
recommendation still stands.

If you really can't get your residual issues with jurabib sorted out, I
don't think it would be _too_ hard to convert. I managed to put
together a functional Turabian (footnote)-cited document with biblatex,
something I never could get to work quite right with jurabib.

Thanks for the package, Jens; it served me well for several research
papers :).

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[Dan Griswold]

Post by Eli Crumrine
If you really can't get your residual issues with jurabib sorted out, I
don't think it would be _too_ hard to convert. I managed to put
together a functional Turabian (footnote)-cited document with biblatex,
something I never could get to work quite right with jurabib.

I appreciate that, Eli. And I am starting to look at biblatex, toward
the end of putting together what I need. It's encouraging to hear that
you have done up a biblatex format in Turabian style. This is pretty
much what I need. Would you be willing to share with me what you have?

Thanks,

Dan
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[Eli Crumrine]

Dan Griswold <***@rochester.rr.com> | Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:12:19
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Post by Dan Griswold
I appreciate that, Eli. And I am starting to look at biblatex, toward
the end of putting together what I need. It's encouraging to hear that
you have done up a biblatex format in Turabian style. This is pretty
much what I need. Would you be willing to share with me what you have?

Sure. This is verging on off-topic, but for the sake of archiving the
relevant information, here it is.

In preamble:
\usepackage[bibstyle=authortitle,citestyle=authortitle-cverb]{biblatex}

% Preferred article citation format, defined in bbx/standard.bbx
\DeclareBibliographyDriver{article}{%
\usebibmacro{bibindex}%
\usebibmacro{author}%
\newunit\newblock
\usebibmacro{title+stitle}%
\newunit\newblock
\usebibmacro{journal+issue+year+pages}%
\newunit\newblock
\printfield{addendum}%
\newunit\newblock
\usebibmacro{pageref}%
\usebibmacro{finentry}
}

% Bibliography-specific formatting
\nocite{*}
\defbibheading{plain}{\newpage\flushleft\large\bf Bibliography}
\AtBeginBibliography{%
% \renewcommand*{\newunitpunct}{\addperiod\space}%
\renewcommand*{\bibnamedash}{---$\!$---$\!$---\adddot\addspace}
}

% Citation-specific formatting
\DeclareFieldFormat{postnote}{#1} % No "p.|pp." in citations, changes
default in ./biblatex.def
\AtEveryCite{
\renewcommand*{\newunitpunct}{\addcomma\space} % Commas instead
of spaces in citation
\DeclareFieldFormat{publ+loc+year}{\mkbibparens{#1}} % Parenthetical
publication info % Reformat macro to print publisher info in correct
format, defined in in bbx/biblatex.bbx

\renewbibmacro*{publ+loc+year}{%
\printtext[publ+loc+year]{% \printlist{location}%
\setunit*{\addcomma\space}%
\iflistundef{publisher}
{\setunit*{\addspace}}
{\setunit*{\addcolon\space}}%
\printlist{publisher}%
\setunit*{\addcomma\space}%
\printfield{year}}%
\newunit
}
% Redefine macro to not print article page range in full
citation format, defined in in bbx/biblatex.bbx
\renewbibmacro*{journal+issue+year+pages}{%
\usebibmacro{journal+ser+vol+num}% \setunit{\addspace}%
\printtext[parens]{% \iffieldundef{issue}
{\iffieldundef{month}
{\printfield{year}}
{\iffieldundef{day}
{\printfield{month}%
\setunit{\addspace}%
\printfield{year}}
{\printtext{\bibdate}}}}
{\printfield{issue}%
\setunit{\addspace}%
\printfield{year}}}%
}%
\renewbibmacro*{url+date}{}
}

\DeclareCiteCommand{\cite}[\unspace\addspace]
{\usebibmacro{prenote}}
{\usebibmacro{citeindex}%
\usebibmacro{cite}}
{\multicitedelim}
{\usebibmacro{postnote}}

Then just use \footcite[pg #]{bibkey}.

The authortitle-cverb style provides essentially the correct format; I
just redefined a few macros for slightly different needs. The
\AtBeginBibliography{} code applies only to the bibliography, while the
\AtEveryCite{} applies to in-text citations. This is very likely not
optimal, but it works for me.
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[Jens Berger]

Post by Dan Griswold
Greetings, all.
My style requires me to conclude the author(s) list with a period, and
Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael, ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.
Deutsch, David and Lockwood, Michael. ``The Quantum Physics of Time
Travel,'' in Scientific American (1994), 68--74.
Does anyone here know how to do this?
\renewcommand*{\bibansep}{.}
and it makes no difference. I still get a comma following the authors.
Please, please, someone help!

No problem here. Please provide a complete minimal example file.

Jens
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[Dan Griswold]

Post by Jens Berger
No problem here. Please provide a complete minimal example file.
Jens

Thanks, Jens. And, for the information of the group (and the
archives), I have sent this directly to Jens.

Dan
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[Jens Berger]

Post by Jens Berger
No problem here. Please provide a complete minimal example file.
Jens

Thank you so much, Jens! I am sorry to take you from your work, but am
very grateful for your assistance.
I attach here the files: jurabib.cfg, sample.tex, sample.bib, and
sample.pdf.
Let me point out that I do not use chicago=true, because I always get
errors. I know that jurabib.sty refers to this, but for some reason I
can't get it to accept the option. It seems, though, that most of the
options covered by this switch I cover with \\renewcommand.

You should not use 'oxford' option without using jox.bst too.
At the moment, 'oxford' overrides your \renewcommand. At first, remove
the 'oxford' option.
But be aware: There is a known problem with double periods, you will get
'Copi, Irving M..'
There is no solution for this problem except reversing author names.

This double period is one of the major problems left untouched, because
jurabib has to be rewritten completely, like TeX in the 70s.


HTH,


Jens
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